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Re: There's no such thing as... Spam-free bulk e-mail

From Linda at Freelance Writer on 22 July '99
replying to There's no such thing as... Spam-free bulk e-mail posted by Jim

Hi, Jim,

Do you really think the opt-in service Postmaster Direct is a spam merchant? I'm vehemently against spam (as you can see in my article at http://www.twowriters.net/spam.htm), but I thought such opt-in lists as Postmaster Direct were acceptable. After all, people don't have to subscribe--they do so willingly, and they choose the categories they'd like to receive ads in. Doesn't PMD screen their clients before sending their ads to the list to make sure the ads are appropriate for the intended category?

Cheers,

Linda

>>Does anyone know of any legitimate, reputable services which provide
>>bulk e-mail services (non-spam) for site promotion?
>
>By definition, there really is no such thing.
>
>If you're sending mail to a list which somebody else has provided to
>you, then the people on the list have not asked to be sent commercial
>email from you (they've never heard of you, so how can they?) Therefore
>what you are sending them is spam, pure and simple.
>
>These "mailing list vendors" claim to have lists of people who have
>requested to receive commercial email. Now, I ask you, who in their
>right mind would knowingly agree to accept commercial email from
>"anybody who was sold my email address"?
>
>Bulk email services will tell you anything to make you pay them money
>but in reality, if you purchase a list of email addresses, they have
>been "harvested" from Web sites.
>
>"Postmaster Direct", mentioned in another message in this thread, are
>spam merchants the same as any other, they just take their lies a bit
>further, that's all.
>
>If you want a legitimate list of recipients there's only one way to
>get it, and that's the hard way - create an opt-in list by inviting
>people to join it (from your Web site).
>
>Or, why not pay for an advertising slot in somebody else's newsletter?
>You could start here:
>
><A HREF="http://www.list-city.com/"><B>http://www.list-city.com/</B></A>

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>Hi, Jim, > >Do you really think the opt-in service Postmaster Direct is a spam merchant? I'm vehemently against spam (as you can see in my article at http://www.twowriters.net/spam.htm), but I thought such opt-in lists as Postmaster Direct were acceptable. After all, people don't have to subscribe--they do so willingly, and they choose the categories they'd like to receive ads in. Doesn't PMD screen their clients before sending their ads to the list to make sure the ads are appropriate for the intended category? > >Cheers, > >Linda > >>>Does anyone know of any legitimate, reputable services which provide >>>bulk e-mail services (non-spam) for site promotion? >> >>By definition, there really is no such thing. >> >>If you're sending mail to a list which somebody else has provided to >>you, then the people on the list have not asked to be sent commercial >>email from you (they've never heard of you, so how can they?) Therefore >>what you are sending them is spam, pure and simple. >> >>These "mailing list vendors" claim to have lists of people who have >>requested to receive commercial email. Now, I ask you, who in their >>right mind would knowingly agree to accept commercial email from >>"anybody who was sold my email address"? >> >>Bulk email services will tell you anything to make you pay them money >>but in reality, if you purchase a list of email addresses, they have >>been "harvested" from Web sites. >> >>"Postmaster Direct", mentioned in another message in this thread, are >>spam merchants the same as any other, they just take their lies a bit >>further, that's all. >> >>If you want a legitimate list of recipients there's only one way to >>get it, and that's the hard way - create an opt-in list by inviting >>people to join it (from your Web site). >> >>Or, why not pay for an advertising slot in somebody else's newsletter? >>You could start here: >> >><A HREF="http://www.list-city.com/"><B>http://www.list-city.com/</B></A> >